Test driving the Buick Longboi tomorrow. What would you like to know?

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 06/11/2018 at 14:00 • Filed to: Wagon, Buick Regal Tourx, buick regal, buick

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Will mostly be the higher end Essence model. Is this the affordable premium American (German) model that will make wagons great again? Until the V60 arrives, anyway.

Also, !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! - Buick Regal TourX vs Subaru Outback vs Audi A4 Allroad vs VW Alltrack vs Volvo V60 Cross Country.

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Update- Trim Breakdown via Autotrader:

The base trim ($29,100) is sparsely equipped for something marketed as a “premium” car, but still gets an ample array of included infotainment features. Standard equipment includes 18-inch wheels, fog lamps, automatic headlights, LED running lights, passive entry and keyless start, manual-adjustable seats, cloth upholstery, a 60/40-split back seat, a rearview camera, OnStar emergency communications, 4G LTE Wi-Fi, one USB port, a 7-in touchscreen interface, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

Despite its hefty extra cost, the Preferred ($32,700) only adds 8-way power front seats with lumbar adjustment, an auto-dimming rearview mirror and a different steering wheel. It does, however, open the door to a variety of options. The Sights and Sounds package adds remote ignition, upgraded gauges, an 8-in touchscreen, integrated navigation and an 8-speaker Bose sound system. The Driver Confidence I package adds auto-leveling LED headlights, rear parking sensors and blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic warning systems.

The Essence ($35,100) adds a hands-free lift gate, dual-zone automatic climate control, heated front seats, leather upholstery, a heated steering wheel, and a 40/20/40-split folding back seat. The Essence’s Sights and Sound package equipment is also included, with the exception of the Bose sound system, which is available separately. The Essence Driver Confidence I package adds the same items from the Preferred’s version, but further adds driver-memory functions, wireless smartphone charging and an auto-dimming mirror. The Driver Confidence II package adds forward-collision warning with emergency automatic braking and pedestrian detection, lane-departure warning and steering assist and adaptive cruise control.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:34

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How does it sport even with Manuel being banned from it?

Ash78, voting early and often > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:38

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I already know from looking at it that the claustrophobia will be palpable. And those rims hurt my eyes. It looks like a slight knockoff of the TSX wagon.

My neighbor’s 2004 V70R is looking more appealing by the day. It isn’t technically for sale, but only because I haven’t knocked on his door yet.

The problem with comparison tests is they look at wagon vs wagon too closely, which sort of ignores how people actually shop. Which is that they’ll look at a couple wagons and end up in an XC60.

Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:41

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I was in the back seat of the sedan Opel version, and I’m not a tall guy but man, the headroom was terrible. I was even drunk and not in car-guy mode and I still noticed it. I’ve heard similar complaints from others, so I’m interested if the long roof fixes the issue.

Tristan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:43

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It looks good, I just wish we could get an honest version without the fuckboi Bushwacker wannabe“I’m A wEaL EsSyOuVeE” fender flares.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Tristan 06/11/2018 at 13:45

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This is America they have to Outback-ify all wagons.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' 06/11/2018 at 13:45

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I will check, 5'11"

functionoverfashion > Tristan 06/11/2018 at 13:47

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Couldn’t agree more. Just give me body color at least. I also don’t like how the ones in the front have the extra little “tab” that extends up. It would probably at least look better in all black?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 06/11/2018 at 13:48

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I wouldn’t have high expectations. If you haven’t seen or read a lot of reviews, check this one out it pretty much sums it up

functionoverfashion > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:48

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What really matters to me right now is space BEHIND the rear seat, with it up (normal), because car seats. Our Volvo XC70 crushes that category, which is why we have it. I don’t need vertical space, goddamnit I’m not transporting pillows. I can’t stack my dogs on top of coolers.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:49

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The linked article is sorta helpful but, mostly, useless. Auto magazines need to run cost comparisons for like-equipped cars in order for anything to be meaningful. And always include 0-60 or 20-80mph times.

Tristan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:52

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You mean AMC Eagle-ify all wagons!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > functionoverfashion 06/11/2018 at 13:52

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Yes!

Side note: Quirk Cars? Does Doug Demuro own this dealership?

Tristan > functionoverfashion 06/11/2018 at 13:53

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But this is 2018. Restraint isn’t a component in design. Over-style ALL THE THINGS.

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:56

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I’m curious as to what you think about the drivetrain - power, transmission, NVH, etc. And whether it understeers a little, a lot, or just has all of the understeer :)

functionoverfashion > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 13:58

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Oh no I know Quirk, they have ads on the radio near me.

“Quirk works to saaaave you moneeeey

Quirk works for YOU!”

But yeah, the black is an improvement.

Textured Soy Protein > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 14:01

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WHAT’S WITH ALL THESE BUICKS FROM CHINA AND GERMANY?! GENERAL MOTORS NEEDS TO ONLY BUILD CARS IN AMERICA OR ELSE I’LL PUT ALL THE TARIFFS ON THEM.

404 - User No Longer Available > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 14:05

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Why aren’t they selling this in Canada?

functionoverfashion > Tristan 06/11/2018 at 14:07

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I don’t know what you’re talking about.

So simple, yet elegant.

Such clean lines...

So pleasing to the eye...

*funny, the last one is from an article titled “The 2018 Camry: Drives Like a Dream, Looks Like a Nightmare.” lol

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > 404 - User No Longer Available 06/11/2018 at 14:10

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Tariffs man, I tell you, “unfair” trade deals and what not! I am sure this is all somehow’s Trudeau’s fault just don’t ask me how!

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 06/11/2018 at 14:16

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#justice4manuel

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 14:41

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If it’s anything like the Opel I drove it Italy, I think I might have found my new daily. Does it come in a 6speed diesel?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 06/11/2018 at 14:50

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6 Speed diesel? Son, This is ‘Murrica which means you get a choice of V8 RWD muscle car/ diesel truck OR turbo4 cylinder FWD based CVT crossover.

There is no middle ground! Estate? what’s an Estate?

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 14:52

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Tristan > functionoverfashion 06/11/2018 at 14:53

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functionoverfashion > Tristan 06/11/2018 at 14:59

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A little antidote:

Tristan > functionoverfashion 06/11/2018 at 15:11

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404 - User No Longer Available > Textured Soy Protein 06/11/2018 at 15:26

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German, built by a French company.

Tapas > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 15:33

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Can you lower it a little and make it just like the European version?

Can you take a the moulding off? If there a finished and painted surface behind it?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Tapas 06/11/2018 at 15:43

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I will make sure that I ask the Buick President and CEO during my test drive, LOL

camarov6rs > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 16:10

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Isn’t this more V90 sized?

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > functionoverfashion 06/11/2018 at 16:21

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Absolutely this and the near vertical rear glass so it is actual useful space.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > camarov6rs 06/11/2018 at 16:27

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Could be, not sure. They are the same length based on a quick Google search, not sure of internal dimensions though.

camarov6rs > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 16:30

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Price is very much V60 territory but true Volvo may have a more efficient interior space in the smaller car making it effectively the same as the Buick.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > camarov6rs 06/11/2018 at 16:34

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The 2019 V60 will be way more expensive. Pricing has not been released yet but the FWD 250HP version itself is supposed to start at $40K. The T6 AWD version which I want should be close to 50K new. V90 is out of question anyway for me price wise unless a really good used example comes along.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2019-volvo-v60/preview/

functionoverfashion > Phyrxes once again has a wagon! 06/11/2018 at 17:29

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I swear I can fit the same amount of stuff in my E46 wagon as my wife’s X3, and I really mean that. Partly because I can open the window and cram stuff in that way. The X3 I can only fit what I can stack with the whole door open.

camarov6rs > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/11/2018 at 17:35

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The V60 would be my pick as Volvo styling has been stellar lately and you can get a decently powerful hybrid setup in a practical package.

Tapas > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/12/2018 at 09:47

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Yes! They must know that people aren’t falling for the fake “ooo this car is almost an SUV - look at them rugged fenders” bullshit!

Ask them if the cars will be delivered with this cheap wheel arch protecting black plastic, much like the plastic on the seats when its delivered.